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Tuesday, August 23, 2005
 
Turning WoW into a grind

One of the younger guild members complained in guild chat that grinding his way to 60 was bringing him down. World of Warcraft a grind? I tried to tell him that WoW was the least grindy game I ever played, and that he should enjoy leveling instead of just trying to get to level 60 as fast as possible. To which he replied that all the guild events were for level 60 players, and guild groups of lower levels simply didn't exist. He just wanted to play with us, so he grinded. Ouch, he got me there!

Come to think of it, even the first Everquest players probably didn't grind, but just enjoyed the world of Norrath as it was. And the most fun is always grouping with people you know. But people get attached to their characters, and play them even when their friends aren't on, and the next you see is that there is such a big level difference that you can't group any more. That just happened to me on the French servers with my D&D buddies, which are all over the place, level-wise.

That outleveling friends only stops at level 60. Once everybody is 60, they can always play together. So when people claim "the fun starts at 60", they are *not* talking about the rather stupid activity of repeatedly raiding the same few places. They are talking about being able to group with friends anytime. And others who observe that want to join that fun, and get there as fast as possible.

Isn't it ironic when social cohesion and friendship turns World of Warcraft into a grind?
Comments:
This is pretty much identical to the situation I was in -- My friends and guildmates were all level 60, but I wasn't. All I wanted to do was play with them, so grind I did. And I hated it.
 
Same here - while i was on holidays i kept up with my regular group on one server as we played together. We changed servers, my available play time dropped and now they are twice the level I am, and I am hating the quest/leveling. (Partly because I play at odd hours, I solo a lot. Very frustrating.) So now I spend most of my time in WSG, as I can jump in the queue, let the server sort out groups, and have a quick fix.

Out of all the issues with MMOs today, the one I would most like to see in the 'next big thing' is for people to just be able to play together.
 
I'm completely the opposite. I love the solo game. I don't get to play that often (3-5 hours per week) and I still love the game. However, I also enjoy grouping. The instances are an amazing part of the game. My point being, if you havn't hit level 60 yet, sit back and enjoy the quests and instances. Don't worry about leveling. You'll get there.
 
Yes. I was one of those early EQ players, and it was a blast, and no one thought you had to be 50. Heck, being over 20 was impressive! And then some people played more then others, and I turned around and all my friends were twice my level, and I never did catch up again....

And yes, I've seen that in WoW already. In fact, I think in a way it is worse, as those who are determined levelers have gotten better at it with practice from other games....
 
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