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Saturday, September 03, 2005
 
Exploiting WoW PvP

I did a number of Warsong Gulch runs yesterday, all of which I either quickly won 3:0, or quickly lost 0:3. So I began to wonder where the balanced fights were. I noticed that the fights I won where always with the same people, the Horde PvP experts. And the fights that I lost were always against the same people, the Alliance PvP experts. Would be fun to see them fighting each other, experts against experts, wouldn't it?

No chance. Because then I finally realized how they were exploiting the system. On a busy evening there are several instances of Warsong Gulch running. So the experts sign up, and the moment they appear in the instance, they quickly click on the button which shows the names of the players of *both* sides. And if they are paired against the other side experts, the type /afk, which instantly boots them out of the instance, and then they sign up for the other battlefield.

If you think that PvP is a fight of Horde against Alliance, you are wrong. It is a competition of Horde against Horde, and Alliance against Alliance. To get to the highest rank in PvP, you need to make more points than the players on your *own* side. What points the other side makes is totally irrelevant to your progress. So chosing your enemy well, and only fighting disorganized pickup groups, is your quickest way to the top.

I'm having flashbacks here of Magic the Gathering Online, where the so-called Leagues had exactly the same problem. If you manage to manipulate the pairings, and never get paired against the other good players, you are sure to do better. Pretty disappointing that World of Warcraft allows the same sort of exploit.
Comments:
What is your motivation to play PvP? Is it just to get the Sgt. reward? or to help cover WOW as a reporter?

Before I logged off permenatly, I never onced ventured into the Pvp instances even though i only played on PvP servers...I guess i wanted the option early on.

Just wondering if PvP is your way of making the game last and if you do enjoy it when it seems balanced during your instance?

Grog
 
What I enjoy about PvP is that it is so unpredictable. Compared to PvE, where once you know how to kill a specific type of monster, it gets a lot easier.

What I enjoy less is that it is a system which isn't well balanced, played by people trained to exploit weaknesses in systems. And I think giving out insane rewards for the top PvP players just fuels the exploitation. Nobody takes drugs to ride his bike around the block for fun, but once you get to the high-earning Tour de France ...
 
Exactly why WSG is closed on 90% of the servers out there! No one wants to deal with that crap for a measly 1632 honor.

/afk is getting removed and you get a reward for losing WSG now... making it a bit more bearable.

I love WSG personally and I am an "expert", but hardly do I travel with experts.

With the easy honor gained in AV by doing the same thing... /afk out and open a new AV vs complete newbs you can get 500,000+ contrib points a week... and yes sadly thats what it is like on my server. There is the top 50-60 players that do this and then everyone else.
 
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