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Friday, May 12, 2006
 
CSI vs. CSI Miami

During the last couple of months I watched the first 4 seasons of CSI on DVD. Then I ordered the 5th season, but I had to import it from North America, as the DVD wasn't out in Europe yet. That took a while, so I started watching the first 2 seasons of CSI Miami in the meantime. Now being near the end of the second season, I've seen enough to make a comparison, and I do like the original CSI much more than CSI Miami.

The original CSI, playing in Las Vegas, has believable characters, cases that range from the mundane to the bizarre, but where the science used to solve the cases is always solid and interesting. It's a bit like Raph Koster's Theory of Fun, you always learn something when watching an episode of CSI, and that is fun. And while each episode is good entertainment by itself, watching a season in sequence is even more entertaining, as it shows the development of the characters in the CSI Las Vegas crime lab. Every character is unique, and is shown in a believable way how he balances his private problems with his job, like all of us do. The single mother, the ex-gambling addict, the elder supervisor in love with a younger employee being kept by propriety from acting on his feelings, different people having different degrees of dedication and ambition towards their job, they all seem very real, and thus sympathetic.

In comparison CSI Miami is a lot less good, although it still is quite watchable. But where CSI concentrates on the story, the science, and the characters, CSI Miami is a lot more about emotions, morals, and visual effects. The science is often a lot less solid, and sometimes even plain wrong. When an innocent man searching for his cat in an abandoned house is shown dying from nitric acid fumes from an illegal drug lab, that has more to do with wanting to show how drugs are bad than with science. Nitric acid fumes aren't toxic enough to kill a man on the spot, especially not in the ppm concentrations mentioned in the episode, otherwise I'd be long dead.

But even worse than bad science are the unbelievably heroic characters in CSI Miami. If one of them is ever shown to stray from the narrow path of perfect behavior, you can be sure that it is only to support some less perfect relative. The guy who in the line of work is shot into the eye with a nail gun has as only desire to get back to work as soon as possible (instead of sueing somebody for a multi-million dollar compensation for having sustained a work injury, as any real American would do). But worst is probably the main hero, Horatio Caine, who is unnaturally calm, always nice to the victims and the innocent, and only ever showing anger against the really bad guys, never being wrong in his estimation of somebodies guilt or innocence. He has no character flaw except for spending too much effort to repair the mistakes of his little brother, is never wrong, and only ever gets in trouble when his opponents are corrupt bad people in the police organization. Even Superman must be jealous of Horatio's perfect moral compass. Unfortunately perfect characters make for bad TV. I much prefer Gil Grissom from the Las Vegas CSI, who is a nerd, permanently late with his paperwork, and has problems communicating with less nerdy people.

I have seen a lot less of the third CSI series, CSI New York. But I'd place it somewhere between the two, not quite as good as CSI, a bit too dark for my tastes, but still better in both science and character depiction than CSI Miami.
Comments:
I totally aggree with you.
I stopped watching CSI Miami, because I couldn't stand the behaviour of Horatio anymore.

And for CSI NY.
Your right with the first season being too dark and so.
But try the second season.
They addressed this problem and now its in the same league as CSI LV in my opinion.
 
Guess i cant let this quote go by...

"Nitric acid fumes aren't toxic enough to kill a man on the spot, especially not in the ppm concentrations mentioned in the episode, otherwise I'd be long dead"

I have no idea what these fumes are or how common they are, but are you implying you run a drug lab?

(grins)
 
No, I'm implying that I spent a good part of my life in boringly legal labs, which also use nitric acid.

By the way, prolonged inhalation of nitric acid fumes is likely to cause lung edema, and might eventually kill you after some time. It is just the dropping unconcious then dead on the spot which is highly unlikely.
 
What is it you do for a living Tobold? You talk of going all over the world on business trips, now of science labs. I had you pinned down as a spokesman for a big company or something.
 
I've always had this unfounded aversion to CSI:Miami - might have something to do with David Caruso.

I absolutely love CSI:LV, especially because the Spike channel (U.S.) shows CSI episodes at least once a night (7-8pm) if not more often (some nights 7-10pm or such).

I've seen a few CSI:NY. Gary Sinese helps make that series worth watching. His character feels like Grissom but with his own personality and development. The other CSI:NY characters still don't feel entirely flushed-out to me, like the other characters in CSI:LV. Still, the science is definitely there and CSI:NY is very engaging - a near-worthy successor to CSI:LV.
 
What is it you do for a living Tobold? You talk of going all over the world on business trips, now of science labs. I had you pinned down as a spokesman for a big company or something.

If I were a spokesman as my job, I would probably have some very silent hobby. I'm a scientist, got a Ph.D. in chemistry. But fortunately scientists aren't chained to the lab any more in my company, and I do lots of traveling for conferences, scientific cooperations, and other science related business purposes.
 
I agree. Good to know there are like minds out there.
 
i watch csi miami just because of cally. she rocks!
 
im like addicted to CSI,, all three of them, but in my opinion CSI LV, is the darkest, then CSI NY, and then CSI Miami,,,however i like ny then miami then lv,, i think the cases are more interesting and have more of a flow,, like the 333 stalker and cabbie driver.. you have to watch the next episode of new york because you want to see what is going on... and if i were you i would stop talking as if your smarter than everyone because you are a scientist if you were that good you would be something like a csi and not have time to post these stupid things
 
csi: miami is the most amazing show i have watched. the lab of csi and csi: ny are way to dark whereas the offices of csi: miami are bright and so cool. go to http://news.softpedia.com/news/039-CSI-039-the-Most-Popular-Show-in-the-World-31540.shtml. CSI: Miami is first place in television charts for USA and CSI is great at #6. I love the characters of CSI:Miami, too.
 
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