Monday, April 02, 2007
The serious side to the joke
Ah, April Fools' Day. Blizzard announced Tin Foil Hats and tried to pass of their old Warcraft RTS games as the new WoW expansion. Turbine announced blue-skinned hobbits with white hats, whose complicately spelled name was pronounced like Smurf. And I write a fake announcement how WoW gets rid of gold farmers permanently. But of course such jokes are only funny if they are remotely believable. The funny thing in my joke was that it actually would have worked! If you would prevent players from giving each other gold, gold farming as we know it would die. But so would major parts of the player economy, as well as twinking, and sending stuff to your friends and guild mates. So the serious question behind the joke is: How much would we be willing to endure to get rid of gold farmers?
Farming gold is perfectly legal, as long as you don't use a bot to do it. Sending 1,000 gold to a complete stranger is perfectly legal too. Only receiving real money in exchange for these 1,000 dollars is against the terms of service and can get you banned. That means of the activities of a non-botting gold farmer, the only thing that is illegal happens outside the game. Unless the farmer is so stupid as to sell the gold on EBay using the same e-mail address that he used to sign up for his WoW account, there is no way Blizzard can catch him. They can't legally get hold of the buyers credit card statement or find any other proof that the seller received dollars for his gold. Blizzard can, and does, detect bots and bans accounts using them. Blizzard can't, and doesn't, ban a sweatshop full of Chinese farming manually. Neither can they do anything against the big companies buying gold from the farmers and selling that gold for dollars to other players. They can ban the account that is sending in-game spam mail or tells advertising a gold-selling website, but those are just free trial accounts anyway.
The reason why the in-game activities of gold farmers are legal is that they are indistinguishable from the behavior of regular players. I saw a guild mate of mine riding on a talbuk, and asked him how he got it. He said its a reward from getting exalted with the Mag'har, and he got it by killing ogres in Nagrand. At 10 reputation points per ogre, you can calculate how many of them he killed to get there. And he probably made a pretty sum of gold at the same time. How is Blizzard going to know that this guy killing 5,000 ogres is a regular player and not a gold farmer? Sending gold per mail is also something that regular players do all the time. Mostly between characters of their own account, but often also to players on other accounts, be it girlfriends, little brothers, or guild mates.
You can think of many different modifications to the game which would make gold farming harder to impossible. Like in yesterday's joke you could make gold effectively soulbound. Or you could introduced something like the Chinese government requires, having mobs drop less and less gold after 3 hours (although that would just force the gold farmer to buy 8 accounts). You could lower the gold cost for mounts and other money sinks by a factor of 10, thereby reducing the buyers' demand for gold. But any solution you come up with is sure to impact regular players as well. My April Fools' joke would have effectively killed large parts of the WoW economy. Diminishing returns would be rather unpopular, think of what would happen if your raid finally reaches the end-boss of the dungeon, and he doesn't drop anything because you took too much time to get there. Less money sinks would cause inflation in the prices of AH-traded goods. And so on.
Even the current situation, where Blizzard looks for suspicious behavior and then bans a hundred thousand accounts every quarter is a compromise. Whatever sophisticated software and methods you use, you will always have some false positives and false negatives. So after the bannings there are still some gold farmers left in the game (while the banned ones just start new accounts), and if you have just 1% of false positives you just banned 1,000 totally legit players which were caught in the dragnet by showing some unusual behavior. Of course these complain loudly, causing a lot of bad publicity.
So in the end stating that gold farming is harmful and should be eliminated is too simple. You need to do a more complete analysis just exactly how harmful it is, and what you would be willing to sacrifice to get rid of the problem. Apparently Blizzard thinks that gold farming isn't harmful enough to justify limitations to the legit player economy. They react slow to people reporting bots, both because of the danger of innocent people getting accused of botting, and because of the cost of following up every report immediately. They are against real money trade, but it isn't their top priority, and they aren't going to do anything spectacular, like preventing gold trade by changing the game, or sueing a major gold selling company.
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Sending 1,000 gold to a complete stranger is perfectly legal too. Only receiving real money in exchange for these 1,000 dollars is against the terms of service and can get you banned.
True but let's be honest here, who sends whom ingame gold for free? Wich legit player farms lvl 40 mobs 24/7 to mail their friends the loot? Blizzard can tag ingame items even gold, to trace its route. When they ban these bot accounts, they could trace, where the gold went. If they would keep the integrity of the game, they could ban all those buyers too.
As far as i know, not a single gold buyer was banned. They only ban farmers and sellers. Why? Cause if you ban buyers, they will not return to the game, sellers will.
You see, behind the second market, is a third one for Blizzard too. There are unofficial numbers of around half a million accounts of the population are/were purely created by gold selling companies, since the game launched. So when they now claim 8 million subs, half a million of those were no actual gamers. We are not talking about 500k farm accounts right now, but 500k accounts as total sum of accounts used to farm money and this number includes all accounts banned and created ones, from launch till today.
They are against real money trade, but it isn't their top priority, and they aren't going to do anything spectacular, like preventing gold trade by changing the game, or sueing a major gold selling company.
And why don't they do this? Cause they do not lose revenues by RMT, they can even make more by banning farmers, cause those have to buy new boxes. Sure many real players will bitch about it but those are hipocrits, they do not cancel their accounts cause the game allows RMT. They may not like it, but WoW is here to earn money, not to create happy customers.
I do not have any problem with gold trading, cause it's just that. It's not like you can kill your enemy in the arena by tossing gold coins on him. You can not by your Karazhan key with it. You can not by ubor-status with ingame gold.
The way the endgame is shaping now, with goldcosts for raiders going the the roof, i do not see any real damage by a secondary gold market. It's not like Blizzard is making it easy for players to avoid this. They almost enforcing to use it, if you want to have fun and rather farm your butt of yourself, just to be be effective in the endgame.
True but let's be honest here, who sends whom ingame gold for free? Wich legit player farms lvl 40 mobs 24/7 to mail their friends the loot? Blizzard can tag ingame items even gold, to trace its route. When they ban these bot accounts, they could trace, where the gold went. If they would keep the integrity of the game, they could ban all those buyers too.
As far as i know, not a single gold buyer was banned. They only ban farmers and sellers. Why? Cause if you ban buyers, they will not return to the game, sellers will.
You see, behind the second market, is a third one for Blizzard too. There are unofficial numbers of around half a million accounts of the population are/were purely created by gold selling companies, since the game launched. So when they now claim 8 million subs, half a million of those were no actual gamers. We are not talking about 500k farm accounts right now, but 500k accounts as total sum of accounts used to farm money and this number includes all accounts banned and created ones, from launch till today.
They are against real money trade, but it isn't their top priority, and they aren't going to do anything spectacular, like preventing gold trade by changing the game, or sueing a major gold selling company.
And why don't they do this? Cause they do not lose revenues by RMT, they can even make more by banning farmers, cause those have to buy new boxes. Sure many real players will bitch about it but those are hipocrits, they do not cancel their accounts cause the game allows RMT. They may not like it, but WoW is here to earn money, not to create happy customers.
I do not have any problem with gold trading, cause it's just that. It's not like you can kill your enemy in the arena by tossing gold coins on him. You can not by your Karazhan key with it. You can not by ubor-status with ingame gold.
The way the endgame is shaping now, with goldcosts for raiders going the the roof, i do not see any real damage by a secondary gold market. It's not like Blizzard is making it easy for players to avoid this. They almost enforcing to use it, if you want to have fun and rather farm your butt of yourself, just to be be effective in the endgame.
I was chatting with a GM yesterday, and he told me they were going to implement something in the next patch to ease the goldfarmer banning... I really wonder what they are up to. That won't be in the patchnotes anyway.
Do Blizzard really care about gold farmers? Bots are so easy to spot, and they are always active in the same areas. Maybe human-controlled farmers are less easy to identify, but the bots could be weeded out very quickly.
The number of in-game whispers seems to be going up day by day too, which would suggest ever more players are buying gold. Can't be bothered to save for a flying mount?
I probably make 40 gold a day in Outlands, which would mean I would have to play for over 3 months before I could consider getting an epic flying mount. While I don't mind the wait, I know a lot of other people who want it NOW.
*Vald*
The number of in-game whispers seems to be going up day by day too, which would suggest ever more players are buying gold. Can't be bothered to save for a flying mount?
I probably make 40 gold a day in Outlands, which would mean I would have to play for over 3 months before I could consider getting an epic flying mount. While I don't mind the wait, I know a lot of other people who want it NOW.
*Vald*
Personally, I found the Black Temple attunement chart and the Black Temple floor plan (by Death and Taxes) more funny, because they are too close to the truth.
Anyway.. I don't remember where I heard it (probably here, Blue Plz or WoW Things Considered), but supposedly Blizzard has five people total investigating gold farmers. Whenever you report a suspected bot, the GM just puts the character name/account into a big list. This list for all suspected goldfarmers on all servers is then checked by these 5 people. The same source mentioned that Blizzard is still processing pre-TBC reports.
Anyway.. I don't remember where I heard it (probably here, Blue Plz or WoW Things Considered), but supposedly Blizzard has five people total investigating gold farmers. Whenever you report a suspected bot, the GM just puts the character name/account into a big list. This list for all suspected goldfarmers on all servers is then checked by these 5 people. The same source mentioned that Blizzard is still processing pre-TBC reports.
" If they would keep the integrity of the game, they could ban all those buyers too."
"BUYERS" .. there is the problem. How do they prove you paid for the gold, they have no access to that data. They can ban bots because they have the data, or at least could convince someone that no human could press exactly the same set of keys 1000 times over in perfect timing.
The only "proof" they have is that the account you got the gold from is a known gold seller, they simply can't prove there was any money transfer - despite it being clear it was.
"BUYERS" .. there is the problem. How do they prove you paid for the gold, they have no access to that data. They can ban bots because they have the data, or at least could convince someone that no human could press exactly the same set of keys 1000 times over in perfect timing.
The only "proof" they have is that the account you got the gold from is a known gold seller, they simply can't prove there was any money transfer - despite it being clear it was.
And then the buyer could still claim that he happens to be personal friends with a gold seller, and that guy sent him the gold for free. Which then would be totally legal. Worst thing they can do is say that the gold itself comes from some bot/dupe/cheat and delete the gold.
In SWG there was a gold-duping episode, where the perpetrators used the /tip command to distribute their newfound wealth to random strangers. Which then promptly got their accounts suspended for receiving duped currency, which caused a huge outcry.
Already in WoW I'm receiving mails advertising gold seller websites, and offering me free gold with my first purchase. Sooner or later there will be mails with 10 gold pieces attached, to better get the attention of the receiver. Would you want to ban people accepting that free gold too, "dirty" as it is?
In SWG there was a gold-duping episode, where the perpetrators used the /tip command to distribute their newfound wealth to random strangers. Which then promptly got their accounts suspended for receiving duped currency, which caused a huge outcry.
Already in WoW I'm receiving mails advertising gold seller websites, and offering me free gold with my first purchase. Sooner or later there will be mails with 10 gold pieces attached, to better get the attention of the receiver. Would you want to ban people accepting that free gold too, "dirty" as it is?
Just a note the real rep for killing ogres lies in the warbeads you collect which have significantly better pay-off for rep like 500 per 10 bead sets.
Sad as it is RMT is a part of games like WoW. Where there's demand, there is also a market and as long as somebody is willing to buy, somebody else will find a way to sell.
Except for reporting spammers and using an addon to block as much of the spam as I can ... I quit caring about it.
I don't think it's possible to get rid of the farmers and the gold industry. I think the game companies should find a middle route that scares as many people away from RMT as is possible without impacting the game on a large scale.
Except for reporting spammers and using an addon to block as much of the spam as I can ... I quit caring about it.
I don't think it's possible to get rid of the farmers and the gold industry. I think the game companies should find a middle route that scares as many people away from RMT as is possible without impacting the game on a large scale.
Even though I've never bought nor sold gold in WoW or any MMO, it has had an impact on me.
I'm not even talking about the well-known AH inflation.
I'm talking about the fact that I'm much less easily impressed by WoW in-game accomplishments. Even when someone flashes a BOP epic from a raid boss, that is diminished because I know that some people finance raiding costs (enchants, repairs, consumables, etc) by buying gold so that they can exclusively raid.
It's kind of sad, because there's no way to tell who "got there" by their own hard work and effort, or "got there" by any number of other ways. It's not just gold-buying, but there are cases of buying a pre-leveled character, people who shared accounts under the old PvP system to achieve the highest ranks, hacking walls down to raid bosses, and so on.
I don't see any solution, though.
Should Blizz start selling "special" accounts with pre-leveled 70's?
Maybe the "option packages" could include epic flying mount, skill of 375 in the two professions of your choice, and a selection of uber-gear?
Or perhaps a "special vendor" in Shattrath who takes your credit card in exchange for gold or skill points or mats or equipment?
That might be better, in a way, because then everyone would have access to the same channels without possible hang-ups due to the moral questions that are now present.
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I'm not even talking about the well-known AH inflation.
I'm talking about the fact that I'm much less easily impressed by WoW in-game accomplishments. Even when someone flashes a BOP epic from a raid boss, that is diminished because I know that some people finance raiding costs (enchants, repairs, consumables, etc) by buying gold so that they can exclusively raid.
It's kind of sad, because there's no way to tell who "got there" by their own hard work and effort, or "got there" by any number of other ways. It's not just gold-buying, but there are cases of buying a pre-leveled character, people who shared accounts under the old PvP system to achieve the highest ranks, hacking walls down to raid bosses, and so on.
I don't see any solution, though.
Should Blizz start selling "special" accounts with pre-leveled 70's?
Maybe the "option packages" could include epic flying mount, skill of 375 in the two professions of your choice, and a selection of uber-gear?
Or perhaps a "special vendor" in Shattrath who takes your credit card in exchange for gold or skill points or mats or equipment?
That might be better, in a way, because then everyone would have access to the same channels without possible hang-ups due to the moral questions that are now present.
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