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Sunday, August 26, 2007
 
Jeff Freeman ends the videogame violence debate

I'm not reading Jeff Freeman's Mythical Blog often enough. The reason for that is that I can't decide whether Jeff is way more intelligent than I am, or whether he is plain crazy. Either option scares me a bit. He has this absolutely brilliant satirical style, which is at times really, really hard to understand. But knowing about Jeff's interest in the subject of how to correctly use statistics and graphs, which often takes the form of making fun of those who don't, I did get the joke on this post on videogame violence.

Jeff takes offence with some graphs showing that crime by some measures has gone down, and trying to link that to videogame sales, which have gone up. To counter that he draws a graph of real data showing that real world piracy has gone up in the last two years. Given the large number of pirate MMOs that have been released or are under development in the same period, there is an "obvious" connection. :)

What that should tell us is that you shouldn't believe any graph or statistic you haven't manipulated yourself. The connection of videogames to violence is a very, very complex issue, which simply can't be captured in any simple graph. You can't argue it in absolutes. Playing GTA isn't likely to turn you into a criminal. But pretending that extensive occupation with violent videogames leaves no traces in a person's psyche at all is similarily ridiculous. Neither side has be very helpful in this discussion, because both sides have just been throwing outrageous sound-bites, false proofs, and other ridiculous arguments. A "GTA made me do it" T-shirt is not a sensible approach to a serious question. Nor is a demand to ban all video games.

And Jeff, you forgot Tales of Pirates in your list. :) And Bounty Bay Online, but that is the same as Voyage Century Online, only repackaged and sold more expensively. Now *thats* a real case of piracy, if you ask me.
Comments:
I'll say this much: the last ten years of sophisticated first person shooters has educated an entire generation about firearms and probably promoted interest in them.
 
I can say that almost 100% murder cases, murderer had a whitepage book at his home. And nowadays even a cell phone.
I say that we should suspect everyone has white/yellow pages at home.. not to mention cell phones owners.

May be we should make new laws to regulate accebility of those items.
 
Oddly, I think it is more troubling when people believe the stats they have manipulated themselves. Also, I do believe you can argue the issue in absolutes: video games are absolutely correlated as effect rather than cause. When so many can and do play games without going nuts, what is ridiculous is to think anything other than the fact that some people bring their crazy to the games. It's not even as though this is a new phenomena or restricted to games, as books and music have long been falsely blamed for the ills of society. Please stop pretending there are two side to this issue, as much as you might like to eschew your own personal responsibility.
 
The Dirty Harry films created a massive demand for the Smith & Wesson Model 29. Until that time, interest in big bore revolvers had been strictly niche, but that single film put the 44 magnum cartridge on the map and it became a big seller. A specific example of how the media can drive up interest in firearms.
 
Funny thing is, everyone plays video games. You may be Amish and/or a freak if you don't. If a teen shoots up his high school and he doesn't play video games, that is news.

I recall reading that the FBI could not find any games on the UVirginia shooter's computer. That may not have been true, just recalling a news story claiming it.
 
Case in point: a couple weeks ago the IRS released data on incomes. The New York Times and some other papers all analyzed the data. They even threw out the poorest and richest people, they all said they were careful to take the median and not the average, and what did they find?

the liberal papers ALL found that median middle class and poor incomes have been declining ever since Bush became President.

The conservative papers ALL found that median middle class and poor incomes have been increasing ever since Bush became President.

This is from the same set of data.

So what do we believe?
 
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