I too appear to have gone infinite without any particular effort. My balance is more in the territory of quarter of a million, but I just bought my second WoW token, and the balance in my personal guild bank is 20k higher than it was immediately after I bought my first one.

I would love to know who is paying cash for all these WoW tokens, that the price can settle at an amount far below what you can earn in a month just from playing casually and sending your followers out on missions.

(btw I am in the US realms where prices are lower, in the order of 20-25k per token)
 

Felblight and 1000-rep medallions made a HUGE difference for me. Accountant just told me I've earned 119K in the past 7 days with just one toon. That's not bad, considering I had fun while doing my daily business.
 

This is what I am preaching for years. If you aren't a moron or slacker, you'll be successful in games without being particularly good or putting in serious effort.
 

@Gevlon: ...or maybe they find utterly uninteresting the part of the game which involves making gold. Or optimizing your character and gameplay. Not everyong cares about "being successful", you know....

 

This is what I am preaching for years. If you aren't a moron or slacker, you'll be successful in games without being particularly good or putting in serious effort.

I'm not saying that you are wrong, but I am against "preaching" that. If those so-called slackers didn't exist, who would sell me their WoW tokens for gold? It appears both unwise and impolite to preach against and insult the people who are paying for my subscription.

or maybe they find utterly uninteresting the part of the game which involves making gold.

I agree, but as I have also written before, it appears somewhat unfair to take one random playstyle out of many different possible ones and pronounce that people who play that particular way now play for free. Imagine that everybody who successfully raided the current most difficult raid dungeon would play for free, while everybody else had to pay more. That wouldn't be very popular as a business model. So why is it okay that the gold-makers play for free?
 

If you are a successful raider, you get lot of BoE-s to sell. You can also sell "boost runs" after the progression period is over. So successful raiders play for free. We can repeat this for any activity: if you are good in it, you can sell its fruits to the lesser players and then sell the gold for tokens.

While it's unwise and impolite to point out that they are M&S, it may save some of these losers and make them a better person. I'm a firm believer of nurture over nature, I don't think that the M&S is beyond help, we just have to show them the way.

And then kick their ass to make them move that direction.
 

I'm not saying that you are wrong, but I am against "preaching" that. If those so-called slackers didn't exist, who would sell me their WoW tokens for gold? It appears both unwise and impolite to preach against and insult the people who are paying for my subscription

Wanting to deny people education because you want to play for free isn't very nice, isn't it?

Case in point: myself. Back in classic I never really had much gold and when I needed 100g to buy riding skill at 40 I farmed leather. Wasn't able to sell it on the AH so I hawked it in trade chat. At 60 I farmed two weeks in Tyrs Hand for 1000g epic riding, I just thought that's the way it is "Gold = farm for it". Noone ever told me and the auction house seemed pointless. In BC I began to play alts and questing gold was pretty good, but still I farmed to be able to pay 5000g on one char for fast flying.

Then in WotLK I came to Gevlon for his undergeared ICC project (hearing "we need more gear" in my own raid pissed me off to no end because we clearly lacked execution not gear). I stayed for his gold advice.

I did not become a glyph mogul like Gevlon, but he provided me with education regarding different kinds of undercutters and how to deal with them. After that I always had enough gold for whatever I needed and just put in some more auction house time if I needed more. If one type of item became unprofitable I just moved on and found another, it's not hard at all. Never farmed anything again. My account is already gold paid through 2016 and I still have multiple gold cap.

I'm not really a moron (opportunity cost was a concept I knew before reading Gevlons blog) but definatly an uneducated slacker. I don't mind more competition at the auction house, it's better for the game.

But even if you educate everyone there still will be people who just slack and buy a token for hard cash. Everyone is different and while I wouldn't call them morons some people will not understand the lesson. But the ones who do should have someone to give them a lesson. Just as in real life.
 

Wanting to deny people education because you want to play for free isn't very nice, isn't it?

Where does that come from? I freely give out information on how to make gold on this blog all the time. I'm not denying anybody education. I just don't go and say to somebody "You are playing it wrong, and you are a moron and a slacker.". I prefer a much softer approach, where I'm saying "thank you for paying for my subscription, and here is how I am playing without having to pay one".

But I fully expect the "moron & slacker" to reply that he isn't at all interested in learning how to play for free, because he considers the various forms of making gold to be uncomfortably close to working, and paying a subscription and paying $20 for gold here and there doesn't really make a difference to his real life disposable income. For all I know the person who is paying for my subscription is a millionaire in real life. I wouldn't dare to judge him because he chose to ignore virtual currency in a game.
 

Sorry, I equaled "not preaching" with "not teaching" and thought you wanted to keep players uninformed.

Also: when I said "came to Gevlon for undergeared ICC" I meant reading the stories not raiding with him.
 

thought you wanted to keep players uninformed

Unlike Gevlon I do not even believe that players act like this because they are "uninformed". I believe they spend virtual riches in unwise ways because they are "uninterested", not "uninformed". Playing the economic game is a lifestyle choice in a virtual world, not a necessity like in the real world.
 

Yeah I hate to say it but when I played WoW it seemed to be very difficult to get gold, period. Also, as Tobold says (sorta) I did not start playing WoW back in 2005 because the box suggested I could reap great economic gain playing the money game....I started because I wanted to play a human warrior exploring Azeroth and the Eastern Kingdoms. My first major hurdle back then was realizing what a shit-ton of gold it was going to cost to get a mount....and once I realized that, my REAL WORLD financial/cost sense kicked in and told me I would be an idiot for grinding precious free time to earn that gold.

It may be infinitely easier to get gold today....I am loathe to resub to find out, though, without someone providing some hard numbers to the effect of "I played X hours to earn Y gold" for me to evaluate.
 

This is my guide for making gold in WoW:

1. Play the game.
2. No, you don't need that thing on the AH.

Assuming you are playing a minimum amount, you will passively get enough gold to play for free in North America. EU may require some minimal effort (i.e., 20 minutes of crafting for 2-3 months worth of Tokens).