I agree that digital download is a nice thing. Anyway I wonder why you can buy the game for 28 euros (standard box, manuals, cd's) including delibery in all europe... and at same time you can buy it with digital download for 50$ plus taxes.

So you end to pay more for digital delivery even if you don't have manuals, download is of your own and they don't need to pay for retail market.

Mistery of distribution.
 

Uhhhh.... for a 20GB download? I'm sorry but for such a large download I'd rather have the physical disk.

But I get your points. Being able to do digital downloads is great, just not for this game IMO.
 

Wow. There's some rare negativity from Tobold.

Thinking you might want to change the title on this page to "Tobold's WoW Blog". Just a thought.
 

I read countless times "don't copy WoW" "where is the diversity in MMORPGs?" and so on... Well Vanguard is not a carbon copied WoW and look at all the positive responses the non-WoW-copy gets.

I played the beta (and trust me you do not want to donwload a 20 gig client), i didn't hated it and my play.com order should arrive any day now. So far i only see Vanguard haters or lovers, will be tough for Vanguard to find its right audience. It really seems Vanguard is the actual "Everquest Service Pack 1", they killed the official forums and all of that, it's kinda funny.

I'm eager to test the final release soon, cause i'm so burned out in the WoW BC level grind (and not even close to 70) that i need something different for some days.
 

Thinking you might want to change the title on this page to "Tobold's WoW Blog". Just a thought.

That would be pretty stupid, as there is a high probability that I'll stop playing World of Warcraft at some point this year.

And I wasn't even commenting on the Vanguard gameplay, which is definitely more hardcore than World of Warcraft. The only negative point I was mentioning here is that Vanguard simply got released far too early, with lots of promised features still missing or incomplete, lots of areas still unpopulated, and not enough content in the form of quests. That is obviously a management decision, and not a game design decision.

Let me phrase it that way: A Mercedes is a very good car. But if you'd get yours delivered with the doors missing, because the producer wanted to get it out early, you would complain too. Just like a car without doors Vanguard has enough components to "drive", but something is obviously missing.
 

Vanguard has some of the most hardcore fanboys outside of SL. Accept it as your lord and savior or expect trolls like that all the time.
 

I clicked the link back to Ernest's blog. Besides the obvious point that he's jealous of the name Edgar Allen Pwn (and who wouldn't be?) his point against Tobold seems to be more in line with the fact that Tobold writes about what he plays while Ernest plays faux angry guy by posting insults and naughty words about many games that he doesn't play. To each his own, just odd to insist that Tobold comment on as much as you when Tobold is dealing with such tricky things as "facts" and "personal experiences" rather than relying on trumped up ranting to hope for a reaction.
 

So far i only see Vanguard haters or lovers

Um, okay. Look harder.

I don't hate Vanguard. I tried the beta for a few hours. It ran like a pig on my box, which is not ancient. For the little while I felt like dealing with that performance, the game seemed workmanlike with all the right ingredients (I swung my sword to reduce the HP of foozles until they were dead and got XP for it), but nothing that made me feel like I should spend $500 upgrading my machine to play it or spend tens or hundreds of hours grinding through the barren countryside to get to the potentially fun part. I don't care about it enough to hate it.
 

The 20 GB footprint is rather the installed spftware, the actual download is 6.7 GB. Took me maybe 2.5 hours to download. Installation+patching after that took just as long...

I have played for a little bit and running on highest quality gfx setting worked fine for me so far, but I have still only been around the starter area.
Unfortunately the game has not impressed me yet, rather felt uninspired. Hopefully it will get a bit better soon, if not I will probably put it on hold for a couple of months and have a look at it then.
 

Hmm... well not only Vanguard release too early, all computer game release too early. Vanguard do the same thing like every others... So they cannot feel cheap or BS to do it.

I agreed that its simply stupid to pay for a game not ready, but we do it since 1990.

For the diplomacy purpose, I don`t think you had played it a lot to say that about it. After the introduction quest, the trainer send you to another mission. That mission is something like grind to diplomacy skills 40. Then take your reward that unblock all diplomacy basic features on NPC (a soldier presence +5 and a crafting presence +7). After that quest, you go back to your trainer. Now, 3 quest in a row to know more about the system. Each quest turn in, bring another one. I stop doing diplomacy quest to go in my totem spirit quest (shaman level 15 hallmark). So, saying that diplomacy have nothing to offer demonstrate that you had missed the point of it.

I really love Vanguard for that. A lot of peoples missed the point of it. So, when you got the point, you feel reward because a lot of others had failed. A MMORPG where everybody can do anything is lame.

I prefer to have hard time to do thing and be happy to complete it, because to figure it out, it took much more time then taking 10 level in WOW.

Vanguard is not a game for teenager. Is not a game for people who need to have someone to help them. Vanguard is a game where you need to plan your travel, plan your play style, plan your fun, your grouping and discovers a lot of stuff. And all this take patience and pride.

Anyway, at least, the MMORPG world now have a world that deserved to take the time to discover it.

If you don`t have time to discover it or figure it out, go play any other game. :)

Jourdelune